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	<title>Comments on: Episode 14: Hate-free Atheism</title>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 09:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks zb,

You might be right in a way. I think we all agreed that when government agencies allows any sort of religious display, it&#039;s either all or nothing--but that it seems more responsible to simply keep our public spaces free of such displays. 

Where we may have missed the boat is on the specific intentions of the FFRF. It never occurred to me that the FFRF deliberately crafted an explicitly inflammatory sign with the singular intent of pointing out how volatile such an arrangement could become.

It did occur to me that the sign itself was meant to achieve this end by the virtue of it simply being an &quot;atheist sign,&quot; but never that authors tossed some extra &quot;sauce&quot; on it to emphasize their point. If so, I am still not sure that I would have gone about it in exactly the same way. I have always been impressed with the FFRF. They have always stood out as a class act in my mind, but this particular approach smacked of passive aggression. 

It&#039;s a small matter, though. In the end I can only applaud their efforts--whether they be exactly as I would do them or not. On the whole, the FFRF is one of the finest secular organizations there is and the world can only get better so long as they keep on keeping on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks zb,</p>
<p>You might be right in a way. I think we all agreed that when government agencies allows any sort of religious display, it&#8217;s either all or nothing&#8211;but that it seems more responsible to simply keep our public spaces free of such displays. </p>
<p>Where we may have missed the boat is on the specific intentions of the FFRF. It never occurred to me that the FFRF deliberately crafted an explicitly inflammatory sign with the singular intent of pointing out how volatile such an arrangement could become.</p>
<p>It did occur to me that the sign itself was meant to achieve this end by the virtue of it simply being an &#8220;atheist sign,&#8221; but never that authors tossed some extra &#8220;sauce&#8221; on it to emphasize their point. If so, I am still not sure that I would have gone about it in exactly the same way. I have always been impressed with the FFRF. They have always stood out as a class act in my mind, but this particular approach smacked of passive aggression. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a small matter, though. In the end I can only applaud their efforts&#8211;whether they be exactly as I would do them or not. On the whole, the FFRF is one of the finest secular organizations there is and the world can only get better so long as they keep on keeping on.</p>
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		<title>By: zb24601</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you have missed the point of the sign placed in the Washington state capital by the Freedom From Religion Foundation.  Another group sued to be able to place a nativity scene in the capital, and the court foolishly allowed that group to place their scene.  The FFRF feels that no religious or irreligious displays should be placed in government buildings.  But if it is to be allowed, then any and all messages must be allowed.  The FFRF placed their sign to make the point that people will not like all displays that would be allowed, therefore the best course would be to disallow ALL religious and irreligious signs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you have missed the point of the sign placed in the Washington state capital by the Freedom From Religion Foundation.  Another group sued to be able to place a nativity scene in the capital, and the court foolishly allowed that group to place their scene.  The FFRF feels that no religious or irreligious displays should be placed in government buildings.  But if it is to be allowed, then any and all messages must be allowed.  The FFRF placed their sign to make the point that people will not like all displays that would be allowed, therefore the best course would be to disallow ALL religious and irreligious signs.</p>
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